Move Over Ryan Leaf?
Written by LucasCoug   
Friday, 07 May 2010 02:00

You all know where I am going with this, don't you?  Read on for more....

With news coming late yesterday that JaMarcus Russell was released by the Oakland Raiders, I would have to imagine our own Ryan Leaf has to be smiling just a little bit.  Hell, it was less than three weeks ago, in an LA Times article, Leaf was quoted as saying:

"I used to go to bed at night hoping somebody else like Heath Shuler might magically leapfrog me on those all-time bust lists...I can't even think of anyone else in the ballpark that might be close to my combination of disappointment and failed expectations.''

Well Ryan, it's very possible that dream of yours might come true, in the form of the 2007 #1 pick.  Now, JaMarcus is still only 24 years old, so it isn't like his career is necessarily over, at least not yet.  But he is going to be starting over, elsewhere, and will likely only be holding a clipboard from now on every Sunday. 

Who else out there needs a starting QB?  Arizona doesn't know what they have in Matt Leinart, do they?  And speaking of busts at #1, the 49ers have unproven commodities in Alex Smith and David Carr.  Maybe Minnesota, if #4 hangs it up for good (yeah, right!)?  For the money, my pick is Russell is going to wind up in the arms of our old pal Mike Holmgren in Cleveland, backing up Seneca Wallace or Jake Delhomme for at least a few seasons.

Since the inception of the common NFL draft in 1967, the only other #1 pick to be released three years into his career is, you guessed it - the University of Washington's Steve Emtman (although it was more due to injuries than ability).  But the debate is officially here as to who is the Biggest QB Bust in NFL Draft History.  Let's take a look at some others and then cast a vote, shall we?

JaMarcus Russell:  7-18 as Starting QB.  52% Pass Completion.  18 TDs, 23 INT, 15 lost Fumbles, 65.2 Passer Rating

Russell has been paid more than $5 million per win, more than $2 million per touchdown pass and more than $100,000 per completion. According to ESPN, he was fined for being overweight when he showed up at training camp.  In 2009 he put together one of the worst seasons in recent memory for an NFL quarterback; completing 48.8 percent of his passes, with three touchdowns, 11 interceptions and a 50.0 passer rating that was the lowest since Leaf, Bobby Hoying and Craig Whelihan all finished below 50 in 1998.  The best thing he has given us is the beer pong rule named after him.  You know, any shot that doesn't touch a single cup...

Ryan Leaf:  You know the drill.  After taken #2, behind Peyton Manning in the 1998 draft, Leaf completed 48.4% of his 600+ attempts.  Leaf threw 14 TDs vs. 36 INT on his career, for a passer rating of 50.0.  Retired after only four seasons, playing only in San Diego and Dallas, while appearing on the roster of both Tampa Bay and Seattle.  Leaf's guaranteed signing bonus was $11.25M.

Akili Smith:  Smith first started for the Bengals in 1999 coming out of the University of Oregon, taken with the third pick of the NFL Draft.  He completed 215 of 461 pass attempts (46.6%) for 5 TDs and 13 INT.  Smith was sacked 59 times on just over 500 dropbacks, and had a passer rating of 52.8. Smith signed a 7 year, $56M deal as a rookie, in addition to a $10.8M signing bonus!

Joey Harrington:  I wasn't going to include Joey on this list, until I had fun taking shots at another Duck (Akili Smith).  Harrington has lasted the longest in the league of all these guys, after being taken #2 overall in the 2002 draft.  He has completed 56.1% of his 2,538 pass attempts, with 79 TD's and 85 INT's, with a career passer rating of 69.4.  My question is how did a guy with this bad of numbers get seven seasons spread across four teams to prove himself?  Harrington's rookie contract was for $36M over six seasons, with a $6M signing bonus.

Cade McNown:  After a great career at UCLA that ended with a Rose Bowl appearance (UCLA plays 6 or 7 games a year at the Rose Bowl just never in January), McNown was drafted 12th overall by the Chicago Bears.  He completed 281 of 515 pass attempts (54.6%), for 16 TD, and with 19 INT, giving him a passer rating of 67.7.  Interesting note, he rushed for an impressive 486 yards on 82 carries in his two seasons as a starter, for a 5.9 YPC.

So there you have it, my list of the Five Biggest QB Busts in recent NFL Draft History. I was going to include the likes of Tim Couch, Todd Marinovich (or as Glenn Johnson once referred to him, Todd Marijuanavich), or non-QB's like Lawrence Phillips and Ki'Jana Carter, but decided against it. 

With that, on our blog, you can see the poll of the biggest QB busts.  Please go right ahead and vote who you think is the worst of all time!

Finally, speaking of former Cougar QBs, one time walk-on Mike Reilly was claimed this week off of waivers by the Seahawks. Reilly came to Wazzu in the same class as Alex Brink after playing his high school ball in Kennewick and Kalispell, Montana.  He joined the Furness Show yesterday, and boy you can sure here the fire in this kid's belly.  Best of lucky to you Mike, and welcome to Seattle.

That is all for today, and as always, Go Cougs!

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World Cup Gossip
written by Julianne Buster, May 07, 2010
Nice informative blog Coool picx smilies/cool.gifsmilies/cool.gifsmilies/cool.gif
Russell by a few lb's
written by SeanHawk, May 07, 2010
Good post Lucas, and some "good" choices. But I went with Russell, and not because this is a Coug blog. When you are #1, and you get all that guaranteed money, and you basically eat yourself out of a job, then he beats out Leaf - barely.

Leaf was the biggest D-bag of the list, at least he was when he played, but that wasn't the poll question! What surprised me was how little of Leaf's contract was guaranteed. I know it was a different era, but just 11.25 million? That is less than 1/3rd of Russell's $39 million that he has already been paid!
Russell, so far
written by Evercoug, May 07, 2010
IF Russell never starts a game again, he gets it. He was picked #1, Leaf #2; to me it's that simple. I think Couch is right up there too, but as he did not implode the way Leaf and Russell did, he doesn't get targeted as much.
I think ultimately Leaf and Russell take more heat than some of the others, because they didn't show the work ethic. If a guy works hard but just isn't very good, he gets more slack, which seems fair enough.
And although Lawrence Phillips should be top 5 simply because he was a horrible human being, RB is not given the responsibility QB is, so he's not up on the list as high as Ryan and Jamarcus.
Oh, and my 2 cents, and it's just my gut feeling, is that Rick Mirer could have been a solid (not great, but solid) QB with good coaching and a year or two on the bench prior to starting, a bit like what happened with Aaron Rodgers.
Russell
written by sdcoug09, May 07, 2010
I have to give the nod to Russell. The money paid to him, I think, outweighs Leaf's d-baggery and immaturity. With that kind of money doled out, no wonder the Raiders are bad. The amount of money Russell got practically made it so the Raiders couldn't go get and pay good free agents to help Russell out. While Leaf was an a-hole while a player, it didn't impact an entire franchise's finances. That's why I choose Russell (and maybe a small part of me just wants Leaf to be rid of the title)
Agreed
written by SeanHawk, May 07, 2010
Horrible #1 draft picks can for the most part DESTROY your franchise for a number of years! It certainly can hurt your cap. You pay out all that money, you better be right. That's why there was at least some talk about the Rams trading out of #1 this year, based on the risk of Sam Bradford. Ever hear Trent Dilfer analyze Bradford? If you were a Rams fan it would scare you to death!

What's kind of interesting is the free pass that Akili Smith has had all along. 5 TD's and 13 INT's from the #3 pick in the draft, just one slot behind Leaf yet worse than Leaf overall? And his guaranteed money was 10.8 mil, compared to Leaf's 11.25? Leaf's D-bag act was a huge part of it, no doubt. At least now he has company.
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written by Chris '04, May 07, 2010
I'm surprised that Couch wasn't included in your list. He was a monumental bust.
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written by sdcoug09, May 07, 2010
The problem with those QB's outside of Leaf and Russell (Harrington, Smith, Couch, McNown) is that they aren't that memorable. Few people outside of fans of the teams that drafted them really remember how big of a bust they were. Leaf sticks out more because of the guy chosen before him and unfortunately for Leaf, it was arguably the best QB of the decade and one of the greatest probably of all time. With Russell, time will tell as to how he'll be remembered, but at this rate, it doesn't look good for him
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written by LucasCoug, May 07, 2010
When I was doing research on Couch, I must have come across a bad link. It showed virtually zero NFL stats, so I left him off of the list. But what I found on his Wikipedia definitely bears worthiness to be included in this discussion. My bad...
No on Couch
written by SeanHawk, May 07, 2010
You know, first gut reaction might say that Couch should be there. But he had over 11,000 passing yards in his career with 64 td's and 67 picks. Not a hall of fame type of course, not even close. But he was average at best, and even though he went #1, being average isn't bust worthy.....or is it? Maybe he could replace Joey Harrington on the list, but he wasn't as awful as the others.

Lucas, did Glenn Johnson really say Maijiuanavich on the pa!! I was at that game in '89, dads day, maybe the most gut-wrenching loss ever, but I don't remember that. And didn't Marinovich's pot issues only come out when he was in the NFL? I did hear Johnson once call Harrington "Heatherton", but I don't remember that about Marinovich.
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written by LucasCoug, May 07, 2010
Glenn referred to that Dad's Weekend game in class in 2006. Maybe he was just calling him that because of his post-college reputation. Either way, I thought it was hilarious. Guy had more than just pot issues...
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written by LucasCoug, May 07, 2010
It looks as though the Seattle PI agrees with me smilies/grin.gif

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seat...204937.asp
Ah, got it
written by SeanHawk, May 07, 2010
I hear Glenn Johnson, I think Mr Mayor/PA guy! Makes sense. smilies/grin.gif
1989 game
written by Evercoug, May 07, 2010
SeanHawk,
I was also at that game, and in the west endzone when Marinovich made that throw to beat us. Painful. We had Brad Gossen and Aaron Garcia that year, along with Bruiser and others. That was the game that put us at 5-1. Then we were 6-1, before losing 4 straight and out of a bowl game.
Tough season, we should have found a way to get to a bowl. But then, that was before they had 112 bowl games a year....
But yeah, definitely a tough loss. My all time worst loss to be at though was the 2002 Apple Cup, because we had the team to win that game, but got outplayed and missed our opportunities. THAT was my most painful Coug game.
89' Trojan game - Dad's weekend
written by YakiCoug, May 07, 2010
I too was at that game. It was probably the must gut-wrenching loss I experienced as a student/fan. The worst part to me was the amount of vulgar trash those hoodlums directed at the crowd as they were leaving the field and outside the stadium. I absolutely HATE USC, and a lot of it has to do with that one game. The year we beat Palmer and SC (2000?) in Martin was sweet revenge. I stood with my arms in the air for 5 minutes after Dunning hit that FG in OT!!! F*ck SC!!!
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written by LucasCoug, May 07, 2010
That's the Glenn Johnson that I am referring to. He is a professor too smilies/smiley.gif
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written by SeanHawk, May 07, 2010
I knew what you meant Lucas, and I knew he has taught at WSU. I meant when you said Glenn, I thought of the context of the PA, not in class. And he did reportedly call Harrington "Heatherton" on the PA, and that is where I thought you were going. Never mind!

I will never forget that '89 game. It was one of the loudest I have heard at Martin, but I will never forget how quiet it got after SC got the 2pt conversion. I was way up on the student side and I swear I could hear conversations on the SC sideline. Just surreal. I also remember how man chances we had to put that thing away, yet Marinovich kept them alive. It sounds crazy but didn't they convert a 4th and 19 on that last drive? I would look it up.....but it is too depressing.

I put that '02 AC loss right there in terms of bitterness, but the pain was eased two weeks later when Gesser led them to the Rose Bowl. But '89 SC hurts worse, as there was no redemption to come (even though we went to Eugene a week later and beat the Ducks!).
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written by Juice, May 07, 2010
Leaf is a way bigger bust...

Leaf was projected as a sure fire hall of famer, a pro bowler year in and year out. He was seen better as Peyton Manning by some.

Russell wasnt even the top rated player in the draft, and people questioned if he was the best qb.

Leaf's stats are way worse than Russell's too.
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written by YakiCoug, May 07, 2010
I don't agree. Leaf has just managed to stay in the news forever because he is a dumbass. Russell was drafted #1 overall, I'd have to say that he is every bit a big of a bust as Leaf. If you are drafted #1 overall, there are lofty expectations. Akili Smith is pretty high on my list, he was absolutely horrible in the pros.
JaMarcus
written by Playstead, May 07, 2010
Loved that pic of JaMarcus. The only way it would have been better is if he had a Big Mac hanging out of each pocket.

I was really hoping he'd leapfrog Leaf, but he didn't break down enough mentally.
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written by Soze, May 10, 2010
He didn't break down enough mentally? He's still only 24 and has PLENTY of time for a breakdown... Russell still has plenty of upside for a mental collapse whereas I think Leaf had already bottomed out and on the other end of the bell curve. GO RUSSELL GO! I'm sure there is a convenience store you can rob...

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